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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbrewster Date: Nov 22, 2005 12:56pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Given the conversations, I think we have said what we could and should. What we are optimizing for is to bring as much access to great works as we can and give all involved time and space to learn.

I realize this is vague, for which I apologize. Most of all, I am sorry that there is a lot less great music on the site.

-brewster

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Poster: Dr.Rock Date: Nov 25, 2005 3:19pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES

I am very sad to lose such a wonderful resource. I want to thank everyone who made this possible while it lasted.

This site was the THE GREATEST.

I got about 200 shows while it lasted, and I am willing to share!

We we all have to find a new way to keep the spirit of this community alive.

I am looking forward to knowing you all on a more personal basis, because sharing shows will now have to be done differently.

It would be cool if we could keep adding to the collection of reviews, as I find them entertaining an informative. Maybe we could keep the reviews somewhwere else, where the could be added to.

I'll miss you all... until we meet again

Thank You, Matt in Humboldt

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Poster: gypsybird Date: Nov 27, 2005 5:21pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

hey matt in humboldt!

i'm in arcata, i'd just recently begun to rebuild my collection (having lost most of my tapes over the years)... i'd love to have a local contact for trades, or blanks, or whatever...
shoot me an email, raveninflightATsbcglobalDOTnet

thanks~

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Nov 26, 2005 12:17am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

It would be cool if we could keep adding to the collection of reviews, as I find them entertaining an informative. Maybe we could keep the reviews somewhwere else, where the could be added to.

Yes, if you look at the very parent post in this thread you are replying to, you will find the plan that includes that idea. http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=47634


This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-11-26 08:17:49

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Poster: timray-wcupa Date: Nov 28, 2005 10:54pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Greetings, all--

I want to thank the Archive for all that they did in providing us with this invaluable resource. While this resource has been appreciated by all of us to the utmost level, I had a particular appreciation for this resource because I am an academic and had/have been using these recordings as a resource in my scholarship on the Dead (something that I think speaks directly to the overall purpose of the Archive as an online library). The fact that these shows have been removed is disappointing, to say the least. Like many of you, I was actually in the middle of downloading a show (from October 1968) when the music stopped, so to speak. What a drag.

Since it now looks like we're back to the pre-IA days, I'd like to say that I do have more than 1,000 hours of shows from pre-Dead through 1995 and have cataloged them in a MS Excel file and would be willing to trade shows with anyone who is interested. These shows are in MP3 format, so that probably eliminates about half those who would be interested. Also, I don't have a whole lot of time for burning, so you'd have to be patient with me. Nevertheless, the silver lining in all this is that we as Deadheads may get to know each other better as a community as a result of this decision. If you're in the S.E. PA area, we could even meet up and get to know each other and build some friendships and listen to some shows together while we're copying each other's shows. Deadheads are nothing if not resourceful, and if we are resourceful, we may find some good that can come from this seemingly shortsighted decision.

If you'd like a copy of my Excel file, please e-mail me at

deadheadtimo@gmail.com

Tim

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Poster: Wichita Date: Nov 22, 2005 11:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Removing the items that you have is the furtherest thing possible from optimizing the archieve.

What was here before this negative event occured was a great source for listening to music, downloading music, reading the excellent posts about how great the show was and the experience of those who attended the show. This brought people together. Today's actions only serves to tare them apart. And done on the day before thanksgiving shows no heart, soul or class.

That being said hopefully the powers that be will provide us with some information on why this action was taken and any steps that can be made to remedy the situation.

I for have never traded before and this site opened up a whole new world to me. I would gladly pay a fee to bring back the music that was so abruptly taken away from. I can only hope that something is being discussed and worked on so that we can get back to enjoying the music.

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Poster: connorscanlan Date: Dec 17, 2005 3:18am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Howdy yall,
well im only 18 an dive got a decent tape collection...long story about that.....but im just so bummed out about this. i just dfont understand why they did it...its just such a huge part of the community, and its not like we dotn spend money [mod] ive bought t shirts stickers box sets...i feel betrayed...i dunno, but my boss told me the other day that bob changed his mind? is this true?

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-12-17 11:18:05

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Dec 17, 2005 3:16am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD FAQ

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#215

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Poster: jcroot Date: Nov 22, 2005 11:44pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

actually, check out db.etree.org for a huge number of friendly traders who will do blanks and postage and all sort of other scenarios. in fact you can start with me if you like. that way you don't have to pay anything - except for the blanks and postage.

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Poster: Wichita Date: Nov 23, 2005 3:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Hey. That's very cool. How should I get started. I would gladly send you discs and pay for postage.

6-16-74 and 6-18-74 are two shows that I love but never had the chance to download.

Thanks for your help.

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Poster: Down the road feeling bad Date: Nov 23, 2005 4:20am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

I know its a small consolation but the nugs.net stash has your 6-16-74 show... mp3 may be better than nothing

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Poster: Down the road feeling bad Date: Nov 23, 2005 4:01am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Yeah, I'll ditto that... how can we contact one another?

Someone earlier suggested a yahoo interest group, or is the a better way?

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Poster: boomer1987 Date: Nov 23, 2005 4:54am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

I have pretty much everything from that summer tour, SDB. njdfan@hotmail.com

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Poster: Wichita Date: Nov 23, 2005 5:26am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Hey bro. Thanks. I just sent an e-mail.

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Poster: jcroot Date: Nov 23, 2005 11:08am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

send me an email and the details and I can help once I get back from thanksgiving and all.

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Poster: macfawlty Date: Nov 23, 2005 3:39am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

I agree wholeheartedly. I really don't expect anything for free and enjoyed downloading over 100 shows over the last 6 weeks since I was turned on to the archive. I am GRATEFUL. But the music must be made available. Archive had it all there in one place, organized well. I would gladly pay for shows, but even if the GDStore makes a bunch of shows available for a fee, it would likely be only table scraps by comparison. I am not sure the archive would really quite dig on a pay-for-download model as an adjunct to their site, but it would be the easiest way to go if someone has to get paid.

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Poster: shakedown_04092@yahoo.com Date: Nov 23, 2005 8:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Thank you SOOOOOO much to all who have made this site one of the best things to happen to me music-wise the past couple of years. You DO deserve a standing ovation for your generosity & kindness by allowing us to have such an incredible access to so many shows.

That said, my initial feeling was not quite that of the day Jerry passed, but it was in the same block. I am horrified.

I would love to help work with anyone else who wants to try to get something else started, whether it be trading hard drives, starting a new site, or resorting to the oldschool way of postage & blanks. Please let me know where to go or what to do - I need direction & want to help. Thanks. Benjamin M. St. Clair

shakedown_04092@yahoo.com

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Nov 26, 2005 5:32pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Why play nice with the dead when they won't play nice with us?

because the files aren't deleted. they are just 'dark' .. the shows may come back some day, and when the GDP says so, the shows can all come back in a click of a mouse. If you don't play nice, that day may never come. if you do, it all might come back..

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Poster: Hatta Date: Nov 23, 2005 12:11am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Sorry, that's just not good enough. This level of secrecy is just further proof that either the Dead don't care about their fans, or the Archive operators don't care about their users. All you will get for this secrecy is conspiracy theories.

This dirty laundry needs to be aired. How are we to know who to write if we don't know who's decision it is? How do we even know what the relevant arguments are?

Honesty is the best policy.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 23, 2005 12:19am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

i would find it very hard to believe that the Archive operators do not care about their users. Its most likely not their fault the shows got pulled right after getting good publicity in Time mag.

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Poster: Hatta Date: Nov 23, 2005 12:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead concert recordings on the Internet Archive

Then why the secrecy? Whose reputation are they protecting? Don't they realize that keeping this under cover damages EVERYONE's reputation?

Even if the GDM asked that their correspondance not be shared, that's not legally binding. Just a nice request. Why play nice with the dead when they won't play nice with us?

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